One battle back
In 1984, I volunteered to work on a project to reduce the transmission of AIDS in my city's gay community. A team interviewed hundreds of volunteer subjects to gather information to develop harm-reduction tactics.
A small but instantly identifiable subset of our subjects said they would accept no measures that curtailed the sexual activity they preferred; this was typically framed as 'political' or viewed as loss of hard-earned rights. When I rolled my eyes after one of them said he was off to the bath house, my wise public health inspector colleague Tim said, "He is fighting one battle back."
He meant that a small percentage of interviewees were still focused on fighting for acceptance of diversity, which to them included practices that made them feel liberated, proud and out. Sometimes, after Tim concluded the questions, he would thank the man, and say, with far more benevolence than his words would indicate, "You stupid git, don't you want to live? I want you to live."
I think of this now, as the re-opening of my city begins. The parallels are far from perfect—but every time I hear myself, or a friend, moaning that we over 60 will be sidelined, I think of that other epidemic.
Some hard moments are coming up, as the younger population slowly return to a less-restricted life. I expect those over age 60 or 65 to be asked to maintain distance; perhaps those working will be encouraged to take early retirement. Multi-generational families will have to sort out how to include grandparents or elder relatives.
That cohort have had their "one battle back": the fight against explicit or hidden ageism. We made efforts to stay skilled, relevant and competitive, look vital, keep our faculties, and, god help us, not be sidelined in any aspect of life.
We are already anxious about when we will get to walk the Santiago del Compostela, visit family in NYC, help to build a school in Ecuador as we'd planned. Our world feels smaller, less controllable.
There will also be everyday Covid-senior-moments, too. Without a vaccine, will we eat in a busy restaurant, go to a concert hall, even visit the library? Many months—or even longer—could pass before we get our ringside seats back. Already, some have not behaved well; a Susanfriend told me about a house party last weekend on a nearby street that was busted for too many persons in attendance. It was a 45th wedding anniversary party at the couple's home.
I think of those militant young men whom I interviewed in '84, furious that their lifestyle was curtailed by a strange virus (which at the time was a death sentence), of their determination to live on their own terms. Tim told me that within four years, every one of those defiant subjects had died.
This new virus is not mitigated by safe sex, but safe intersections. I hope we will accept prolonged distancing with grace and forbearance; that we give warm appreciation to those responsible younger persons who care for us by respecting our vulnerability, and that we do not flout the restrictions just to prove we're not over the hill.
I tell myself I will travel abroad again, sit in a theatre, attend a friend's choir performance—but probably not as soon as my younger neighbours.
This will be the single most important contribution the elders can make in their time remaining.
A small but instantly identifiable subset of our subjects said they would accept no measures that curtailed the sexual activity they preferred; this was typically framed as 'political' or viewed as loss of hard-earned rights. When I rolled my eyes after one of them said he was off to the bath house, my wise public health inspector colleague Tim said, "He is fighting one battle back."
He meant that a small percentage of interviewees were still focused on fighting for acceptance of diversity, which to them included practices that made them feel liberated, proud and out. Sometimes, after Tim concluded the questions, he would thank the man, and say, with far more benevolence than his words would indicate, "You stupid git, don't you want to live? I want you to live."
I think of this now, as the re-opening of my city begins. The parallels are far from perfect—but every time I hear myself, or a friend, moaning that we over 60 will be sidelined, I think of that other epidemic.
Some hard moments are coming up, as the younger population slowly return to a less-restricted life. I expect those over age 60 or 65 to be asked to maintain distance; perhaps those working will be encouraged to take early retirement. Multi-generational families will have to sort out how to include grandparents or elder relatives.
That cohort have had their "one battle back": the fight against explicit or hidden ageism. We made efforts to stay skilled, relevant and competitive, look vital, keep our faculties, and, god help us, not be sidelined in any aspect of life.
We are already anxious about when we will get to walk the Santiago del Compostela, visit family in NYC, help to build a school in Ecuador as we'd planned. Our world feels smaller, less controllable.
There will also be everyday Covid-senior-moments, too. Without a vaccine, will we eat in a busy restaurant, go to a concert hall, even visit the library? Many months—or even longer—could pass before we get our ringside seats back. Already, some have not behaved well; a Susanfriend told me about a house party last weekend on a nearby street that was busted for too many persons in attendance. It was a 45th wedding anniversary party at the couple's home.
I think of those militant young men whom I interviewed in '84, furious that their lifestyle was curtailed by a strange virus (which at the time was a death sentence), of their determination to live on their own terms. Tim told me that within four years, every one of those defiant subjects had died.
This new virus is not mitigated by safe sex, but safe intersections. I hope we will accept prolonged distancing with grace and forbearance; that we give warm appreciation to those responsible younger persons who care for us by respecting our vulnerability, and that we do not flout the restrictions just to prove we're not over the hill.
I tell myself I will travel abroad again, sit in a theatre, attend a friend's choir performance—but probably not as soon as my younger neighbours.
This will be the single most important contribution the elders can make in their time remaining.
Comments
I don't have the same kind of sex/death wish as your younger gay men sample (and yes, I knew quite a few victims of AIDS, including a very close friend - he came from a VERY restrictive Catholic background and nobody in his family knew he was gay - he was a head of a department at University of Ottawa at only 37) but for me, being useless and being dead are pretty much the same thing.
I don't have the same kind of sex/death wish as your younger gay men sample (and yes, I knew quite a few victims of AIDS, including a very close friend - he came from a VERY restrictive Catholic background and nobody in his family knew he was gay - he was a head of a department at University of Ottawa at only 37) but for me, being useless and being dead are pretty much the same thing.
lagatta: I trust you are finding ways to be useful, and will continue to do so... as did so many of the men in that cohort.
Jane: In my country HIV infection rates have jumped 25.3% in the past four years. Over 2, 500 cases in 2018; retrovirals do not work for everyone.
Melissa, depends on parents' income, social class, race and a hell of a lot of factors. I never had that golden youth and fought tooth and claw for what I had.
You're also looking at AIDS through a historical lens. There were no treatments for a decade. Gay men had no clue if there ever would be any treatment and had to decide what their life, short or long, would look like. It's the same mindset that is prevalent among very artistic people, the musicians and artists and writers who live a short but very creative life. They basically live their lives on fast forward.
I have some very dear friends over 80 sound in mind and remarkably found in body. And thank the cat goddess, I can always pull the plug rather than being those poor creatures in care homes!
That is not my experience. Besides disabled persons, I see the term applied to: persons and families living at or below the poverty line, refugees, trans persons, low-income single-parent families, incarcerated persons, and migrant workers—as well as other groups.
One will live on one/s own terms, but it is not all about the self. The men, women and children who died during the AIDS epidemic left behind many to grieve. I am one.
I'm doing a big rethink about what the next couple of years will look like.
I'm 63 & have severe asthma. Can currently work 50% at home and the public has been temporarily excluded from the office, which lessens the risk.
Will I retire sooner rather than later?
All the cultural organizations where I thought I'd volunteer when I retired - their festivals are cancelled. In the last two months I've leapfrogged over several stages of life to "at risk senior!"
The libraries are closed.
I'll keep working for now and looking for options.
I most certainly miss my gay friend whose "outlaw" sex life was so at odds with his intellectual life, and that simply wouldn't make sense to me, but I'd certainly not have told him how to behave.
Eva: Thank you for jumping through those hoops to comment, and the book recommendations. I just had a conversation with a friend who quoted a friend of hers who said she had "done enough" and was planning to cross a border and visit NYC to see her grandchildren because "I am not giving up a year of the last good years of my life." I was dismayed, even though I sympathize with her longing. She was busy concocting a story that would allow her in the country and said she was prepared to be turned back but "had to try". People, honestly.
Duchesse, I thoroughly understand your friend - a useless life is not worth living - but don't agreee with her as she could contribute to infecting others. Yes, I'm thinking back to death squads in Europe and South America as a dear friend has survived the latter, his parents somehow the former.
Fortunately I have a sweet little black cat who doesn't get into such philosophical considerations.
Once deisloation begins, various public health officials expect a higher community transmission rate.
Here are data for mortality by age as of May 13, 2020 from NYC. (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)
Share of deaths
Age 18-44: 3.9%
Age 45-64: 22.4%
Age 65-74: 24.9%
Age 75+: 48.7%
To say that to maintain distancing for those 60 is "over cautious" depends on what you think of as significant risk.
re co-morbidity, it's a factor for any age group. Hypertension and diabetes are usually cited, and these are not diseases only of the 75+ cohort.
As the pandemic proceeds, we will be able to review more data about Covid-19 mortality, by various criteria.
Re the car risk analogy: We have designed safer cars but cannot presently design a virus, and are only beginning to understand this one. I only drive or am a passenger in a car as an exception. We have not owned one for 8 years and though licensed, I rarely drove for 30 years before that. I'm not fearful, but prefer other modes.
lagatta:That was my point: a fatality rate of 22% to almost 25% percent is something to think about.