tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post6950884355703715409..comments2024-03-28T03:40:29.423-04:00Comments on Passage des Perles: Weight: OK, now what?Duchessehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-48769553926812264692013-02-12T19:21:56.309-05:002013-02-12T19:21:56.309-05:00I admire your discipline and commitment.
Right no...I admire your discipline and commitment.<br /><br />Right now, I'm focusing on smaller portions and moving more. We'll see.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15711792521348799922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-46888523370597012032013-02-10T00:48:08.237-05:002013-02-10T00:48:08.237-05:00Another WW saying that I find true is this:
It...Another WW saying that I find true is this:<br /><br />It's hard being overweight. <br />It's hard losing weight.<br />It's hard to keep weight off<br /><br />Chose your hard.<br /><br />Good luck and thanks for sharing.Kristinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-81569250488969881122013-02-10T00:46:37.248-05:002013-02-10T00:46:37.248-05:00Another WW saying that I find true is this:
It...Another WW saying that I find true is this:<br /><br />It's hard being overweight. <br />It's hard losing weight.<br />It's hard to keep weight off<br /><br />Chose your hard.<br /><br />Good lick and thanks for sharing.Kristinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-52924372469451925732013-02-09T23:13:23.674-05:002013-02-09T23:13:23.674-05:00Kristien62: As the saying goes, "It works if ...Kristien62: As the saying goes, "It works if you work it." What surprised me is the difference b/t the amount of food I need (and I'm not going hungry) and what I was eating just b/c I could!Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-30882435572658612892013-02-09T21:07:08.493-05:002013-02-09T21:07:08.493-05:00I strongly suspect that Judith and I are political...I strongly suspect that Judith and I are political adversaries, and that she has far more assets than I do. <br /><br />I've worked a lot in the neighbourhood on healthy eating programmes for people who are considerably poorer than I am, with far less education: things like community kitchens and access to exercise programmes for people with specific health challenges. I succeeded in getting access to cardiac programmes for people who couldn't afford private ones. Many people have been pressing for a community centre with a public pool and it should be up and running later this year, knock wood!<br /><br />Late magical nun (speaking of WILL!) Madeleine Gagnon and some of her sisters were involved in that too. <br /><br />As for cars, it is not a matter of forcing anyone into them, but a lack of safe and feasable alternatives in many jurisdictions in North America (and even in Britain). Nordic Europe does much better.lagatta à montréalhttp://www.montrealcyclechic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-16346957576258126152013-02-09T20:44:49.310-05:002013-02-09T20:44:49.310-05:00Judith: I've learned no one does anything &quo...Judith: I've learned no one does anything "for real" till they are ready. <br /><br />I spent a lot of time denying or ignoring my situation and it was not till the very scary bp that I said, OK, I'm doing this". While I think of myself as intelligent, I wasn't intelligent about that. <br /><br />But once willing to be accountable, now I have no excuses, do I?<br /><br />lagatta: There are *many* causes of obesity and some people are challenged with many factors at once. While no once forces anyone to get in a car or spend hours in front of TV, it's definitely harder to eat a good balanced diet if your income is low- and oh how I wish we subsidized salads in restaurants like Sweden (?) does. <br /><br />You are both identifying important dimensions to addressing obesity, yours, the social, and hers, the tendency of a person (for whatever reason, but usually tired, stressed and facing other demands) to make excuses instead of mobilizing will. <br /> Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-30301258351944653232013-02-09T19:37:47.409-05:002013-02-09T19:37:47.409-05:00Duchesse- Thank you, thank you for this post. As y...Duchesse- Thank you, thank you for this post. As you know, I recently started WW on-line to lose for a health reason. And I had to "start over" twice. The idea that it is a marathon not a sprint is empowering. I need to lose the idea of "going off" the plan and "getting back on." There is a little voice in my head saying, "You'll never be able to do this." Time to ignore it. <br /><br />And I do feel sorry for those who have gained because of meds. That's a much tougher situation to deal with than just needing to be accountable.Kristien62https://www.blogger.com/profile/04141776821818167047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-45684987503789846342013-02-09T19:33:05.416-05:002013-02-09T19:33:05.416-05:00Judith, I am trying to think how to react politely...Judith, I am trying to think how to react politely to your judgemental, vicious comments. <br /><br />What other women do, as long as they don't force deep-fried-Mars-bars down your throat, is absolutely none of your business. <br /><br />You have no idea what challenges another human being faces. I could be every bit as judgemental about your lack of compassion - a far greater failing than a bit of pudge, even though it may shorten the pudgy person's life - and your crap about "accountability". <br /><br />Obesity is a SOCIAL problem, caused by carcentric planning that doesn't favour daily-life exercise, and corporate crap food. <br /><br />Yes of course individuals should fight it, but that will not solve the general problem.lagatta à montréalhttp://www.montrealcyclechic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-87261023182741433112013-02-09T18:05:15.811-05:002013-02-09T18:05:15.811-05:00Thanks Ducheese .. I do get really annoyed at smar...Thanks Ducheese .. I do get really annoyed at smart, intelligent women who can run a household and hold down a job, take care of nails and hair appointments but then allow themselves to play the 'victim' and the 'its not my fault' game when it comes to weight. Accountability is definitely the word. I never said it was easy. But then the job and the family etc aren't easy either are they ;-)<br />JudithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-41696556980176203912013-02-09T08:58:39.908-05:002013-02-09T08:58:39.908-05:00Denise: Hugs, cheers. Support is extremely importa...Denise: Hugs, cheers. Support is extremely important, whether a group, online community or family/friends. You can do it!<br /><br />TB: Terrific system. I'm pretty much like that, I call it "automating" meals, b/c found if I had to really think through every food choice I got too focused on food and the regime became a bigger deal than it is. Deja Psu found the same thing. The system is in fact freeing.<br /><br />Susan; When I did WW they did allow variation depending on how much carb you liked, and I think today there is even more flexibility in the system. Nutrition is a field that is stuffed with various theories, approaches and contradictions. Women with specific health issues (like diabetes or auto-immune system diseases) may need more specialized advice from a nutritionist but most of us are just eating too much, or too many empty calories.<br /><br />Judith: Tell it, sister! The a-word-accountability- is the foundation to a healthy weight and (now that I think of it) other sound habits.<br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /> Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-80336684911060792782013-02-08T21:49:03.274-05:002013-02-08T21:49:03.274-05:00Hi Duchesse
lets face it - there is only ONE way ...Hi Duchesse<br /><br />lets face it - there is only ONE way to control our weight. The answer? <br /><br />CONTROL. <br /><br />Watch what you eat. Watch your weight. Adjust intake to match 'outgoings'. <br /><br />Its not rocket science but everyone wants to make every excuse in the world (slow metabolism, funny genetics or whatever). There is no other solution.<br /><br />Just control. <br /><br />Weight yourself. Too heavy? reduce intake. Too light? Increase intake. It is not complicated. We just keep wanting to take shortcuts and find exuses.<br /><br />No one forces food down our throats. We put it there. Only WE can take control of our own weight.<br /><br />60 years of watching my weight has taught me this.... and I have to remind myself of it daily. No shortcuts or excuses. Take control.<br /><br />JudithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-62500207578071753422013-02-08T19:46:17.540-05:002013-02-08T19:46:17.540-05:00Duchesse, The nutritionist who comes to speak to o...Duchesse, The nutritionist who comes to speak to our exercise group says that 1300 calories is the rock bottom number of calories that we have to have--and that some individuals have to have more. I'm intrigued by the breath test and what it can tell you. <br /><br />I was aware of how metabolism works when the body thinks it is being starved. This is just a bit different as allowances have to be made for individual body needs. In other words, you could look just like someone else in size and body type, but your nutritional needs COULD be different. The nutritionist is concerned that WW (and others) generalize too much. I'm just reporting by the way. <br /><br />Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12756033682201519150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-54724657072391323252013-02-08T16:45:54.131-05:002013-02-08T16:45:54.131-05:00I lost 45 lbs. last year because I had constant kn...I lost 45 lbs. last year because I had constant knee pain and so far, so good for keeping it off and the BMI in the normal range. What I do may work for others so I am sharing it: I eat very much the same things Monday - Friday and allow a bit of reasonable deviation on the weekends. This means fruit and Greek yogurt for breakfast, salad with protein and vinegar for dressing or broth-based protein/veg soup for lunch and protein/veg for dinner 5 days a week but I find I am happy with that and it is easier than counting for me.<br />Duchesse: love, love, love your blog and the intelligent and thoughtful comments of your readers.TB Determinedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15354216027821961337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-47469983533604957772013-02-08T15:53:52.257-05:002013-02-08T15:53:52.257-05:00Thank you for this post. I made the decision last...Thank you for this post. I made the decision last weekend to finally take matters into hand and lose the 70 pounds I need to. I've enlisted support from my sister in law and my daughter. I've not really addressed my weight because I was afraid of failing but I decided the stakes were too high. Denisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09110623973868136062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-64416939110790835182013-02-08T12:55:15.508-05:002013-02-08T12:55:15.508-05:00Pseu: IMO slow is good b/c we really internalize t...Pseu: IMO slow is good b/c we really internalize the shift. One can discreetly log points with a smartphone app- if you want to. Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-5350391439559265702013-02-08T11:55:36.765-05:002013-02-08T11:55:36.765-05:00@deja pseu: I came up with this saying at a WW mee...@deja pseu: I came up with this saying at a WW meeting when someone got frustrated: "this is a marathon, not a sprint". It's a slower process but requires more resilience and mental strength. <br /><br />And yes, we'll be managing this forever, just one day at a time....sophisticatedlady66https://www.blogger.com/profile/12495439834409553875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-40975877334680027372013-02-08T11:49:52.489-05:002013-02-08T11:49:52.489-05:00Kathy: If she had to chose, obviously mental healt...Kathy: If she had to chose, obviously mental health is the #1. I think Jenny Craig would have looked at this issue closely before signing her (bad for their image if she doesn't succeed) and she did lose.<br /><br />re "being a spokesperson": She is open about her experience in interviews and has described her breakdown and the treatment in "The Best Awful" (called "a thinly-disguised autobiog"); good article on that here:<br />http://www.bphope.com/Item.aspx/280/hollywood-kid-carrie-fisher-and-her-best-awful-<br /> Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-65388670448734266132013-02-08T10:12:48.138-05:002013-02-08T10:12:48.138-05:00I'm within a couple pounds of my goal weight, ...I'm within a couple pounds of my goal weight, and have been doing very well with Weight Watchers this time. I'm not *famished* and although the weight loss is slow, I feel as though I'm getting a much better handle on *managing* my weight. I do imagine that except when traveling, I'll be tracking points and weighing weekly for the rest of my life. Which no longer feels like a chore or sacrifice. It's like daily flossing...just something I need to do to help keep my body healthy.Susan Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005855250089328310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-41034409335584828702013-02-08T09:26:40.969-05:002013-02-08T09:26:40.969-05:00Chiming in about Carrie Fisher. As she's Bi-P...Chiming in about Carrie Fisher. As she's Bi-Polar, I'm sure she takes one or more medications that contribute greatly to a weight gain. It is one of the main reasons that people who suffer from this, go off the meds, particularly during a "manic' or happy phase. Wish she'd become a spokesperson for Bi-Polar Disorder, rather than Weight Watchers.KSLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251064646063353242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-8822774458188658842013-02-08T09:26:22.920-05:002013-02-08T09:26:22.920-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.KSLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251064646063353242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-73174289211164863922013-02-08T08:57:09.777-05:002013-02-08T08:57:09.777-05:00Susan: The effects of VLCDs (Very Low Calorie Diet...Susan: The effects of VLCDs (Very Low Calorie Diets) have been well-researched. To simplify, the body reads the deprivation as "I'm being starved" and works to conserve energy by slowing the metabolic rate. But oh how women want to lose 2 or more lbs per week, so they cut to less than 1200 cals/day- not recommended by WW or MyFitnessPal, and utter misery.<br /><br />sophisticatedlady666: Thank you for speaking up! Congratulations, know what that took. (WW Lifetime Member from so long ago my card is typewritten.) Yes, once the stickers and applause stop you really have to motivate yourself. Plus, all that dropping down in points- though we know the reason, it's so hard to relinquish every one! I gained back much of my WW loss when I stopped logging. Keeping my eye on the cals (or points) is the only way to keep it off.<br /><br />Viktoria: Changing the reflexive behaviours is a key tactic. For me, it was food @ my computer. PdesP was fueled by licorice Twizzlers! Getting through holidays w/out a gain shows real change, good for you!<br /><br />Carrie Fisher has a tart, original comedic voice and I so hope she can manage her illness. <br /><br />JillAnn: Big applause! While there are varying opinions about the role of exercise, I like what one of my MFP friends said: "Watch the calories in, they are easiest to manage." Exercise has many, many other advantages though.<br /><br />Both MFP and WW let you "earn" mopre cals or points w/ exercise, but I don't eat all of them back or I just maintain. (Some people do 'eat back' the exercise cals and still lose but I think they are younger.)<br /><br />Tabitha *is* a knockout and your comment echoes my thoughts.<br /> Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-81884449741835652282013-02-07T21:48:21.465-05:002013-02-07T21:48:21.465-05:00Hi Duchesse, and congratulations on your accomplis...Hi Duchesse, and congratulations on your accomplishment! You & I have talked before about weight loss; my story, briefly, is that I was normal weight until after my second baby, at age 38. Maybe it was perimenopause, but it took 3 years to lose the baby weight, but then I gained it back plus 20 lb more. At age 54 I finally got serious, went to Weight Watchers, and lost 50 lb over a year. Still want to lose 5-10 more, but if not, I'll be fine.<br /><br />I weigh myself every morning, because I've found at this age, it's incredibly easy to gain 3-4 lb in a week just by going out to dinner a couple of times. I am NOT going to gain back any of this weight. I am working on exercising more, mostly for health reasons, because I don't think it really helps you lose weight. It's all about the food choices and portion sizes!<br /><br />And Tabitha, I don't know your personal situation, and know from your pictures that you are gorgeous; but I respectfully suggest that if you are hungry every night, that's just not sustainable, plus it's no fun! I will say that following Weight Watchers (somewhat loosely these days), I am NEVER hungry. Of course, sometimes I'm hungry for cookies, or chips & dip, but I just don't eat those much. But just plain hungry...no. I can eat plenty and maintain my 50 lb loss. And I still drink wine mostly every evening, just have to make different choices about what I eat and how much of it. I'm so damn healthy I can hardly stand it!<br /><br />---Jill AnnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-20060098485734948332013-02-07T21:45:11.477-05:002013-02-07T21:45:11.477-05:00materfamilias: They both are terrific cooks but on...materfamilias: They both are terrific cooks but only pa has the magic metabolism. But since Denis had a heart attack last spring, he is a much more conscious eater (and cook), giving me, finally, the ample vegetables I need. And your discipline inspires me- though I figured with all the running you never had to think about your weight.<br /><br />Duchessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09986153653120526776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-88690827697636816672013-02-07T20:05:45.367-05:002013-02-07T20:05:45.367-05:00Well done on the weight loss! It´s difficult, and,...Well done on the weight loss! It´s difficult, and, like you say, keeping it off is hard. Personally I find it easier once I figured out what triggers my over-eating. Actually, I don´t exactly *enjoy* food so much as I let my manners (as they are) influence how much I eat. I tend to clear my plate first and then clear what´s on the table. So, now I serve myself by the stove, on a slightly smaller plate, and as a result, eat about 80% of what I used to. I have managed to get through Christmas without my usual +2 kg, which is unprecedented. <br /><br />I do feel for Carrie Fisher - I´m a great fan of hers, she is a really gifted artist, but, as you said, troubled by bipolar disorder. Viktoria Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00608160759512904861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872918251244874644.post-44031423676320477462013-02-07T19:28:29.782-05:002013-02-07T19:28:29.782-05:00I'm a longtime reader of your blog, which I en...I'm a longtime reader of your blog, which I enjoy very much, but it wasn't until this "weighty" subject came up that I was brave enough to contribute. I just lost close to 50 lbs on Weight Watchers in roughly a year and a half, and I couldn't agree more that the hard work begins when everyone else thinks you're done and at goal. In some ways it's more of a challenge because I always run the risk of believing all those "you look fabulous/younger/sexier" comments and it's easy to overindulge, since after all, according to everyone around me, I look great. For me it's a daily struggle, food is an addiction and it's one I'll battle for the rest of my life, just like an alcoholic, drug abuser, etc. The good news is that the support I receIved at WW meetings and from friends outside who struggle as well, make the journey easier. Sorry for the long post, it's a subject I feel so strongly about!sophisticatedlady66https://www.blogger.com/profile/12495439834409553875noreply@blogger.com